Ruff jr and boxie the foxie, great choices. Most everyone started out with one the other or both. What trainer(s) are you looking into? I suggest the pocket pal and trumpet for girth training and the torpedoo's for depth training, or the keeper which is about as long as the large torpedo but has a little more girth to it. I have comparison pics up under the pics/vids thread of all the trainer toys....except the expander and I am working on getting that one too

The wait usually isnt this bad......several things in life hit all at once and poor bear's just now beginning to recover. Also check out the i wanna say already made thread under the news section, bear does have a couple of frost medium hardness silicone ruff jrs ready to ship out, might wanna check if one of those are still available. Enjoy your time here with us.