Suggestions?

[zqfmgb]

Well, I'm looking to get some sort of new toy, and I'm thrilled that silicone is now offered at this site. Given the choice, I'll pay more to go with silicone. I also think I'd really like to try a toy with a knot, the ones I have are "traditional" toys that have barely any size change at all.

I'm looking to get something bigger than my current largest toy, because I just find myself wanting MORE when I get worked up. By MORE, I mean more thickness. I want to feel myself even more stretched out. That's what's got me wanting to try a knot.

My problem is that to get MORE, I need to order the Akita, and it's the one I would really prefer to get; just thinking about taking something that size gets me bothered sometimes. I don't know that the knot on the Timber (the only other real choice) would really thrill me because of the size of the toy I currently enjoy using most -- a rubber(rather it wasn't) toy that's just shy of 2 1/2" in diameter and round. I can take it just over 7" in, but then seem stymied; I don't know if it's the thickness of the toy (which is mostly the same the whole length), or the relative inflexibility, or what. That's what worries me about ordering the Akita, that I won't be able to take the knot because I can't get it deep enough, as to take it all looks like it would require more than 8".

So... suggestions?

[knotme]

I had the same problem the first time I tried to take one with a knot.  Have you thought about buying something like the trumpet or even the slip knot?  These help with both stretching out and taking length.  Also being able to RELAX helps out ALOT.  Before you start I also recommend an enema.  Cleaning yourself out also helps with being able to take something deep and wide...heheh.  I hope this helps.  Oh one more thing be patient, if you are having trouble and get frustrated your body tightens up and makes it tougher to take one.  I found I was able to take a knot my first was 2.5".  I rocked back and forth adding extra lube around the knot and anus.  And just kept rocking, and rocking, until POP! I had taken my first knot and it felt oh so great.  I hope this helps you out.  Any other questions feel free to message me.  I will help out if I can.

[savanni]

I had the same problem the first time I tried to take one with a knot.  Have you thought about buying something like the trumpet or even the slip knot?  These help with both stretching out and taking length.  Also being able to RELAX helps out ALOT.  Before you start I also recommend an enema.  Cleaning yourself out also helps with being able to take something deep and wide...heheh.  I hope this helps.  Oh one more thing be patient, if you are having trouble and get frustrated your body tightens up and makes it tougher to take one.  I found I was able to take a knot my first was 2.5".  I rocked back and forth adding extra lube around the knot and anus.  And just kept rocking, and rocking, until POP! I had taken my first knot and it felt oh so great.  I hope this helps you out.  Any other questions feel free to message me.  I will help out if I can.

i would also recomend getting lube inside your body too, it helps out esp if the toy may not be lubed up enough. take a syringe or something that can push the lube through. it helps out alot for myself

[Talarath]

Not quite going to dissect the first post, so I think I'll just try to some it all up in one.

To take something with a big change in size (ex: knot or big head), you need 4 things.  Lube, time, patience and lube.
If you force it in, you will hurt yourself.  You will bleed.
If you go slow and only take maybe a very small portion each time you go back on it, you'll eventually get it.  Hell, you dont even need to take more every push back.  Now, you may still bleed a bit, but you likely wont even notice.  Just keep the toy lubed.  If any part seems even slightly under-lubed, use more!

Now, for that problem you have about 7->8" in.  That is likely your second sphincter.  Think of it as the first time you took anything at all back.  It was likely uncomfortable and painful.  Well, same concept except this one is deeper in.  You'll just need to get used to it.  This also takes time and patience.  If you got a toy which can squirt lube in you, that could help immensely.

[Nanaki]

And make sure you use the right kind of lube. I have "WET" and it's way too watery to be effective. Even with lots of it, it still has some friction. Leading to a little bleeding that wasn't too bad but I didn't force too much either.

I've got some KY gelly I'm going to try.

[savanni]

And make sure you use the right kind of lube. I have "WET" and it's way too watery to be effective. Even with lots of it, it still has some friction. Leading to a little bleeding that wasn't too bad but I didn't force too much either.

I've got some KY gelly I'm going to try.

try that its always helped me in the past ^,^ my smaller toys i use a more liquid lube but when i get to the bigger ones or taking a knot i use jelly

[zqfmgb]

Well, thanks, but I wasn't really having trouble with using toys in general, nor to the width. That's just practice and patience, as stated. I KNOW I could take it after a couple tries, and I've gotten fairly good control over those muscles with a little effort. I understand how to relax and how to help open myself up. I've been a quick learner in that regard; I was on my sixth self-play session ever when I first took my currently largest toy. But the past many times I've seen no improvement in depth.

I think I've already conquered that "second sphincter" that was mentioned, so don't think that's my problem. Requires a different mental focus to loosen up, but feels nice as well. Maybe not as nice, but nice.

My worry is that there is some unforeseeable hard limit as to length that can be taken that would essentially make a toy unusable, as the point of what I'm considering is to use the knot of the toy. It's that concern that kept me from really considering the Grand Pup before the Silicone toys were available, or I might already own one of those. Actually, I'd maybe still consider one, if my fears/concerns were assuaged.

[knotme]

Well I dont know how tall you are or how your body is shaped and works.  I used to have the pig that zeta offers, yes its slender but it is 14" long, and I took all of it in one try.  I have also taken the ram I use to own all the way which is I think like 10" of useable toy and plenty of girth.  Like I said earlier if you are worried about length get something like the trumpet, its it 10" long and tapers from .25" all the way to 3" wide.  Or for that knotty feeling get the instructor.  It is about 8" of useable toy, and offers 3 knots, the first being just under 2", the second being 2", and 3rd being 2.5".  The first time I ever used it i got to the 3rd knot without even trying much.  Believe me when I say that between the trumpet and instructor I was able to take even the equine I owned all the way to its base and I know it had to be 10" or more in length, and had plenty of girth.  If you feel you are hitting a wall, and I know of what I speak because I dealt with this EXACT problem.  Just sit there on it and keep adding lube around your anus, and the toy you are using.  I found it best to sit the toy down in the tub so I had something to prop on and hold onto, then just let your weight and gravity do its thing, and POP, you have taken something longer.  Chances are its your anal chery thats getting in the way and needs encouraging to open up.  Remember that part of your body is use to pushing stuff out, knot taking it in.  Just be patient with this and it will work itself in over time.  It took me nearly 3 weeks to take my first knot, but all the training and working with it, paid off in the end.

[LGGF]

I also tought there was a limit too how deep I could get things in somewhere bethwen 6-8 inches in, until not too long ago when got a long dubble headed dildo. tock a while of messing around in there with it but suddenly it gota past and the whole thingie could get pushed in if I wanted too atlest dubble of what I tought was the max limit.

I think reason it never worked befor is couse all realyl long things I have tried have been too hard. needs too be abit flexible so can bend and turn easy in there
the one I used also had somekidna spine thingie inside it so flexible but still offers some stiffness, worked great turnign and wiggling it around until it got past and went for a deep plunge ^^

[knotme]

glad to hear that worked out for you, and you are able to take longer than you thought you were able to.

[zqfmgb]

Well, I had considered the distinct possibility that it was simply due to the object of insertion. It's barely flexible, but goes deeper by several inches than a rigid sheathed vibrator that I have that's thinner. I did decide (or perhaps simply hope really hard) that something thinner and more flexible would be able to go deeper (I mean, why make 10+ inch long toys on a place like this if the average person probably can't use them).

Ultimately, I think I'm going to wind up getting the Akita sometime. Unless something... more fulfilling comes along.

[RedRaven1968]

When I am going to play "back there" I use REPLENS VAGINAL LUBRICATION SUPPOSITORIES, just slip one in about an hour before play,AFTER A GOOD ENEMA... and also IN ADDITION use KY jelly, together they will make a nice slippery lubricant , for your inside and out. It also helps to stay very well hydrated "DRINK YOUR * GLASSES OF WATER EVERYDAY!!! The lining of the large intestine is very sensitive to your hydration level. Literally, the wetter you are on the inside will make or break a session of playing satisfaction.

[knotme]

hmmm had thought of that one before.  Good point about staying hydrated.  True the body does need to stay healthy in order to endure such play.  So how does one get lube deeper in when the nossle of most things are just a couple inches in length?

[RedRaven1968]

hmmm had thought of that one before.  Good point about staying hydrated.  True the body does need to stay healthy in order to endure such play.  So how does one get lube deeper in when the nossle of most things are just a couple inches in length?

I think you misunderstood me...you cant really "enema" the lube in. U have to work it in, as in apply, play,apply,play etc...Thats the way its always been 4 me,anyhow. Either that or 24-36 hours prior, take the recommended dose of Castor oil, from the drug store. Usually 2 tablespoons, does the trick. The thing with this is...youll be preparing,and lubricating at the same time. Don't worry Castor Oil is an old remedy from before last century, it was widely used,and nobody suffered ill effect from it.

[knotme]

actually there was no misunderstanding, I was asking that as a real question, how do you get it in deeper without the use of play.