Need help with the knot..

[Akita]

Hey Guys..
I bought the Natural Akita (medium) at the end of October...  and I have been trying every day to stretch (EVERY DAY)

Anyways enough about background history. I have no idea how to take the Akita knot.. I don't have any Trainers and I'm a Broke College Kid Who cant afford any Trainers At the moment But I really want to take that damn knot..

Any Advice? Ive read basically everything on the Forum now.. I understand the whole Rigmarole of "LUBE!! GO SLOW!! REPETITIVENESS AND ALITTLE AT A TIME!!"

I need Advice like Positions.. and How to Actually Work up too it..

Ive already tried trying to get half in.. and then the other half.. Its just stubborn. 

(Ive Literally tried just sitting on it for awhile.. Getting up.. sitting back down.. I can Barley get 1 half of the knot it..) it doesnt hurt too bad it feels good.. it just wont go..

(My fierce can fit her fist in me but i cant take that damn knot even when shes trying to do it to me)

[Zoen]

This is making me think it might be a depth issue and not a girth issue.

The only suggestion I can provide to help is to see if you can inject some of the lube into yourself before you start playing.  It might be just what you need.

[johndeeregirl4u]

This is making me think it might be a depth issue and not a girth issue.

The only suggestion I can provide to help is to see if you can inject some of the lube into yourself before you start playing.  It might be just what you need.

agreed.

another suggestion.. stop trying!  keep playing with it but don't make it the objective of playtime.. just enjoy it and one day it will probably happen that's how I took the grand pup for the first time.. NOT the knot.. I still can't take that.. but whenever I'm trying to take something new/larger, it seems as though when I stop 'trying' - it happens

[knotme]

I agree with johndeeregirl, the first time I tried to take the gel ruff stuff, for a couple of weeks my objective was to knot, and never could, finally I just enjoyed myself and the toy and pop, it happened.

[jsealing]

There is a little trick with the knot, trying wrapping it with Saran Wrap which should reduce the overall size enough to possibly allow it to "pop" in. I believe you will find a reference to this in another post; good luck!

[knotme]

I tried the saran wrap trick, and I had trouble getting the saran wrap to co-operate with me to make the knot smaller, if you get that to work tell me your trick to getting the saran wrap work properly, mine doesnt wanna listen to me...lol.

[LGGF]

There is a little trick with the knot, trying wrapping it with Saran Wrap which should reduce the overall size enough to possibly allow it to "pop" in. I believe you will find a reference to this in another post; good luck!

I did that with the Sil euro ruff stuff toy the first and only time I got it too fit hehe so I know it works

What helped to oget it working properly was having someone stretch it out while wraping around it tight, then it got sligthly longer tho but alot thinner

[jsealing]

I knew that someone would have the answer!

[zqfmgb]

Well, let's see. I had "trouble" with it, but two weeks hardly matches your experience. I always sit/squat on my toys. The weight of my body pushing at the ground and the ground pushing back has way more power than a person. Now, my wife has rather small hands, but I find it easier to take one than the Akita's knot, honestly. Although her hands don't have quite the circumference, they also don't have the give of silicone. They also don't have the width, which also makes the Akita tougher than a rounder toy of about the same size. Sadly, that same shape will also make plastic-wrapping more difficult, and I've never bothered to try it so I don't have advice there.

The only things I can think of that might help are 1) Raise the toy up a bit. I find mine far easier to take if it's an extra inch off the ground. I couldn't even get it at first if it was flush with the ground. A hard surface is also a big help if you're not already using one. 2) Rotate the toy itself if you haven't. Although it's temping to have the point on the base facing your forward (or rear) for mental fantasy reasons, try rotating it some. Up to 90 degrees, if need be. My first success had the toy at a 45 or so degree angle because I had/have an easier time stretching back-to-front rather than side-to-side.

If you've got a depth issue going on (which I would kind of doubt at only 7" in with a silicone toy, but everyone's different), you'll need something to stretch you out deeper. Without buying more toys, there aren't too many suggestions for that. You could try to ghetto-rig something, or see if your fiancé can help with her hand. She could try having her keep her fingers as pointed as possible, or just to go deeper however she keeps her hand when it's in you. Bear in mind that your anal passage dips to the left side of your body, then does a fairly quick-around to the right side. Lying on your left side (especially since you have help) can apparently straighten things out a bit and make it easier, but nothing is going to work like magic.

[beastmastre]

I don't doubt that it's a depth issue. In fact, I think that may be exactly what it is, in a particular way.

@Akita, if you really can get the knot halfway in, that being that your sphincter is stretched around the widest point of the knot, and you can take a fist into your rectum then you should probably be able to take the knot all the way into your rectum also. BUT, the difference between the Akita toy and a fist or even a buttplug of the same size as the knot is what precedes the knot on the Akita, the tip and shaft. I've discussed in other similar topics that there is, in fact, a second (internal) sphincter at the top of the rectum and at the bottom (technically the exit) of the colon. Now, I don't know what your experience with anal play is, but if you've never played with a toy long enough to get past that second sphincter before it could be resisting entry or it's even possible that it's being hit at the wrong angle to allow entry. I, myself, am having trouble getting toys with a large blunt head past it even though I can get other toys well beyond. I'm going to get a new toy to train and stretch it to new levels. If you have gotten past that with something else before then it may be that the little tip on the Akita is catching on the outer edge of that sphincter muscle and you just need to turn the toy around 180 or even 90 degrees or change the angle of the toy in relation to your body going in. If you can't afford to get another toy to train that sphincter, then maybe you can get your girlfriend to get two or three fingers through it, while fisting you, and spreading them apart to help stretch it.

I hope this helps you out.

Dar