Uncircumstitions

[Wulf]

I found out I am not the only male that wants to get my foreskin back. Someone found this site for me and I wanted to bring it up on here to see if you could make some of these tools for less, custom sizing, etc.

Just an idea . . . . I don't know about the copy rights and all that but if you could do anything on there I think it would be epic.

http://www.circumstitions.com/Restore.html

[Quiet269]

I don't think you could beat the pricing and functionality offered for the TLC Tugger: http://tlctugger.com/

Especially when you consider that the material is much different than what Zeta works with already... Also, I would think most designs are going to be patented... which might get into legal issues.

EDIT: Also, just because I've looked into this before (I'm uncut, but very opinionated about this, so I looked into it some )

It seems that the majority of it, is simply looks. It's not going to look exactly the same... It's going to be loose around the end, not tight like your foreskin normally is. And the nerve endings they cut off when they performed the circumcision are not going to be restored. I've heard that some people experience greater stimulation on the penis head, because the faux-foreskin will cover it, and protect it as it once did (instead of it getting knocked around by everything it touches); but I wouldn't expect the results to be astronomical by any means.

If it's something you'd like to do, and you are patient, then I would recommend doing it But if it's just a "Meh" thing... you may not get enough satisfaction from it to warrant having a cone strapped to your dong 80% of the time

[Brownbear]

Ive also seen their products and have considered getting one myself.
Im not setup to make items like this yet, but no telling what will happen in the future here

[Wulf]

Yeah I was hoping to restore some feeling but I also want to do this for the look and the tugger did look like it would work the best at a quick glance. I,ll just look though them all again on the weekend and get one. Thanks again for reading my post.

[LGGF]

o.O Never heard of things like that before... seems abit wierd tho but is it safe? sounds kinda scarry tbh

not that I need it anyways I never even seen anyone with a choped up wang before ^^ until recently I only tougth they did that kinda things in those contries where ppl live out in the bush and live in caves o.O 

[Quiet269]

It's RAMPANT in the US to get your child circumcised... There is a laundry list of reasons for how to do it. I find it rather hilarious though; if you look into the early reasons behind it, it was to reduce the sensitivity of the penis, and make it so they do not masturbate. Nowadays, it Increases Satisfaction... They've basically done a 180° on what it will do for you.... 

Personally, I like the look of both (I just love cock ) so I don't care if you're one way or the other; but the choice to be snipped should be left up to the owner of the penis; not some random Doctor, Religion, or the Parents.

As for the restoration... the idea behind it is solid. It's the same idea behind people who stretch their earlobes...

It's not like it's ripping the skin off or anything; it's supposed to just be a constant bit of tension on the skin. Your body feels this and goes "Oh, I don't like that, I'll make more skin." and so it slowly adds more skin to reduce tension. Well, you keep adding the tension, and eventually you see the results

[paw_guy]

I'm interested in restoration too, only surgical. However if you can't retain your sensitivity I don't think it would be worth it. ): 

Doctors that do restoration are pretty sparce though, so finding one you can go to is difficult. Funny thing is though, you can find urologists anywhere that will circumsize you. 

[Quiet269]

I honestly never looked into it surgically... just never appealed to me

[semicolonthree]

I'm actually restoring using the "T-tape" method right now.  I've only been doing it for a few weeks and am already showing some progress.

Also, as hard as it is to believe for those outside of the United States, circumcision is a routine procedure for newborns here.  Fortunately, this barbaric practice has begun to decline.

[beastmastre]

Hey guys,

I've also been interested in foreskin restoration for some time now and have done some research. But, sadly, like the zeta toys I want, I haven't been able to afford the device that I want, the DTR. However, the timing of this topic was perfect because I've got a nice tax refund coming soon and it reminded me about the DTR. Thanks for posting this! Now I can order one and some zeta toys too! Woohoo!! 

Like I said, I've done some research, so I'll post my two cents and some links for anyone else that would like to learn more. I'm personally into this for a couple of reasons. I don't believe that the choice to be circumcised should have ever been made for me. I'm not blaming my parents or the doctor. It's embedded in our culture and simply isn't right or natural. I have a friend that had it done as an adult for medical reasons, and that's one thing, and it did work out for him but I'm also aware of the pain he went through for it and that shouldn't be inflicted on any child unnecessarily whether they'll remember it when they grow up or not.  I'm also interested in the reported increase in sensation that may come with restoration. Appearance is a secondary interest for me. I can take or leave the way it would look covered but I have always liked the visual of the foreskin rolling back and forth (and the sensation when flaccid that I'd like to enjoy erect).

One of the best resources on restoration is The National Organization of Restoring Men, and NORM-UK as well.

Here's the Wikipedia page on Foreskin Restoration.

This is a comparison chart for restoration devices with links to pages for many of them.

And this is the site of the guy that makes the device that I plan to get, the DTR.

And, BTW, there is a fairly simple surgical  procedure to tighten the end of the foreskin after the length has been, surgically or non-surgically, restored

Happy restorations! 

Dar

[Ayame]

So far, I'm the lone woman on this thread, and (no surprise) I have a dissenting opinion on this topic.  I'll leave religious and cultural reasons for this procedure to more learned posters, as that is not a requirement of my faith.

Retaining (or restoring) a foreskin, to gain what may or may not become extra sensation, doesn't even come close to the risk posed to women (and men) by exposure to one of the many forms of HPV, some of which cause genital warts, and others of which cause cancer.  For those of you with male partners, unless you always wear a condom, you should be just as concerned about their health.  Some of the many cancerous forms of HPV cause anal, penile, and throat cancers in men, as well as genital warts.  Please forgive me if this sounds cruel, but as someone who copes with this problem regularly, I believe it's reasonable to say that our lives trump your gain in sensation.  

Yes, I know there is a vaccine for HPV now.  BUT... Gardasil does not prevent all types of HPV, and it's only useful for the very youngest generation of females now living, and those yet to be born.  The rest of us adult females are just shit out of luck.  So are you men!   Some tests on teenage boys have been done with Gardasil, and the results are worse than disappointing.  Although successful in preventing Genital Warts from HPV, it was ineffective against any of the 3 forms of male cancers caused by the virus.  Unless they can come up with a alternate vaccine or treatment, men In years to come, will be even more vulnerable than women.  That;s appalling!  A circumcised penis is more resistant to the micro-abrasions by which most uncircumcised men acquire HPV and Herpes viruses.   Since it's incurable & chronic, Herpes is probably worse.  I've seen my sister and other women suffer with it, and their genitals are not as exposed to irritation/friction as those of a man.

Having put up with expensive and painful surgery, and many (past & continuing) tests and exams, I can tell you that HPV and genital warts are no damn fun.  It was also no damn fun for any of my 3 uncircumcised partners, ALL of whom had (symptomless) HPV infections, and shared them with me.  Their treatments took longer, cost as much, and were WAY more inconvenient than mine.

I'm sad to say that there are NO perfect solutions to this delimma!  I wish to g*d there were!  Nothing is perfect or risk free.  At this point in time, the best we can do is advise men to keep their number of sex partners low, be circumcised, and practise safe sex.  Although not perfect, it's a strategy that's been proven to be effective in reducing the problem. But keeping your number of sex partners low, and being circumcised are proven preventatives on every continent and in every culture in which it has been tested.


Edited to correct speling of Gardasil
Edited again to correct my "tone" which was interpreted as more harsh than I intended.  New text is in Italics, Old in Strikeouts

[LGGF]

So far, I'm the lone woman on this thread, and (no surprise) I have a dissenting opinion on this topic.  I'll leave religious and cultural reasons for this procedure to more learned posters, as that is not a requirement of my faith.

Retaining (or restoring) a foreskin, to gain what may or may not become extra sensation, doesn't even come close to the risk posed to women (and men) by exposure to one of the many forms of HPV, some of which cause genital warts, and others of which cause cancer.  For those of you with male partners, unless you always wear a condom, you should be just as concerned about their health.  Some of the many cancerous forms of HPV cause anal, penile, and throat cancers in men, as well as genital warts.  Sorry guys, but our lives trump your modest gain in sensation every time.  

Yes, I know there is a vaccine for HPV now.  BUT... Gardasil does not prevent all types of HPV, and it's only useful for the very youngest generation of females now living, and those yet to be born.  The rest of us adult females are just shit out of luck.  So are you men!   Some tests on teenage boys have been done with Gardasil, and the results are worse than disappointing.  Although successful in preventing Genital Warts from HPV, it was ineffective against any of the 3 forms of male cancers caused by the virus.  Unless they can come up with a alternate vaccine or treatment, men In years to come, will be even more vulnerable than women.  A circumcised penis is more resistant to the micro-abrasions by which most uncircumcised men acquire HPV and Herpes viruses.  

Having put up with expensive and painful surgery, and many (past & continuing) tests and exams, I can tell you that HPV and genital warts are no damn fun.  It was also no damn fun for any of my 3 uncircumcised partners, ALL of whom had (symptomless) HPV infections, and shared them with me.  

Nothing is perfect or risk free.  But keeping your number of sex partners low, and being circumcised are proven preventatives on every continent and in every culture in which it has been tested.


Edited to correct speling of Gardasil

that was kinda.. uhhmmm .. yeah...

Well I'm sure choping of every dick at the base and stitchign shut every hole would be a good preventative too, proably even better!... but chopping of body parts too do it kinda defeats the point.

Also ya forgot too mention the increased chance for diffrent infection if ya are missing the foreskinn, and the increased chances for injuries. also it's the disfiguration. And the meny complications that the procedure it self can make, ending up needing more operations too try correct it again.

I would personaly trust natures design and leave it at that

[paw_guy]

That was a horrible thing to say, men don't want women to cut themselves up at birth. And truely given the topic that was uncalled for.

HPV Really, why not castrate all men and give all women histerectomies, that would almost eliminate HIV and most other STD's.

Maybe I'll have my arms removed so I don't break them!

If you don't want to be with an uncut man DON'T, but you have no business advocating others be forcefully cut, no more than asian peoples had the right to bind womens feet.

I REALLY don't know why this is coming from a female, MY BODY MY CHOICE ring any bells!!!!!!!

[beastmastre]

Actually, Ayame, I'm a circumcised male that contracted HPV(Human Papilloma Virus)/Genital Warts from a girlfriend. So much for the idea that not having my foreskin would help me out there. In our case, I'm the fortunate one thanks to strong a immune system that gives me a natural resistance to infections. I, very rarely, get an occasional wart. She was not so lucky. During our time together she had to undergo two laser treatments and also had to have part of her cervix frozen. I was there with her while she suffered through this, so I can empathize with yours in a way. I'm sorry that you've had to endure anything like that. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.

HOWEVER, I have some nits to pick with you. One is that you shouldn't always believe the hype of the medical community. They can come up with numbers to support just about anything. For a large part of the 1900's they claimed that circumcision would reduce masturbation which, of course, was later proven to be bullshit. But, yet, they had the numbers to back them up at the time. And once the medical world establishes traditions, they will fight like mad to keep them in place. That goes for circumcisions or cesarean sections or the stupid way that med students have to intern. Like I said, being circumcised didn't keep me from getting infected and it sure as hell has never kept me from masturbating. HPV and Herpes reside in the skin, not the blood, and do not require micro-abrasions to enter. It's HIV that requires them to enter the bloodstream and they're also advocating circumcision for HIV prevention. But the micro-abrasion thing doesn't make sense because taut skin is more susceptible to abrasion than loose skin that can roll back and forth. The only argument that might make sense is that an uncircumcised penis can trap pathogens under the hood, which is true and the reason that uncut men need to be more careful about hygiene to prevent various yeast and other infections. Even condoms can't prevent transmission of HPV or Herpes because you can still contract them on the pelvis, which happens to be where my first outbreak showed up at, btw. That's a major blow to the argument for cutting. Even the studies supporting it aren't that terribly promising for prevention. And the CDC estimates that at least three out of four sexually active Americans have HPV. It's already epidemic and cutting doesn't stop it. So, you tell me. Should the decision to cut or not to cut or, for that matter, to restore or not, be taken away from us?

You should be as up in arms as we are about involuntary genital disfigurement, considering the fact that males are not the only ones around the world having their privates cut up. Girls are having their clits removed or their vaginae stitched up.  Shouldn't they have a choice?

Whether you believe it's by god or evolution, we're built the way we are for a reason. Maybe in a few millennium we won't have foreskins and maybe not. My philosophy is to not fuck with Mother Nature.

BTW, here's a link to a site for people with HPV or Herpes. - Meet People with H I'm profile number 7402975 and I've been a member for years now.

Dar

[Quiet269]

Can you link to the research that shows that an uncircumcised male is more prone to infection?

As for the "unless you're wearing a condom every time" ... You're an idiot if you're not.

There's not much more you can say in that regard. Unless you're completely monogamous, in a committed relationship, and have the test results to prove you're both clean... why risk it?