Tips for deeper penetration?

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knotme:
I had the same problem with not being able to get but so deep.  Now I am up to 10", 14" if you count the pig because it is slender and quite flexible it was ablt to just snake its way right on up.  Basically just keep at it, keep it lubed, and stay relaxed.  Staying relaxed I would say other than lots of lube is the most important thing you can do.  The body is not use to objects going in the rectum, only use to expeling things.  So to the body this is foreign and not normal.  Just stay at it, be patient, relax and over time your body will realize this feels good and will allow you to go deeper and deeper.

Zoen:
I never had a problem taking a toy deeper.  The first time I got my dragon toy, I was able to fully hilt it the very same night, but it did take a few minutes for me to get the tip to curve around and go deeper.

One thing you can try is to angle the toy to the left or right and see if it helps getting the toy in deeper.  I know with my dragon that if I turn it so the tip is pointed towards the right side of my body, it'll go deeper much sooner as compared to if I just take it normally.

beastmastre:
Quote from: Schii on September 10, 2009, 08:59:07 AM

Hi everyone.

I've been a long-time admirer of the site but never really signed up, for a reason I'll get to in a sec.

I'm fairly experienced, but I've never been able to penetrate deeper than 6" (I'm a male, btw).  I've tried to read up on anatomy and whatnot but it's not been working very well.  I know sometimes it can be blocked but I make sure to use an enema to clear things up before play.  The move into the sigmoid colon is what's been stopping me.

I'd love to try these toys (especially the Timber wolf) but I feel like I'd be wasting my money if I wouldn't be able to use the entire length.  What sort of techniques can help me get past the 6" barrier?  Is it a toy-flexibility issue, and if so, these toys are flexible enough, right?

Quote from: zqfmgb on September 10, 2009, 11:18:46 AM

I share this problem, at about 7"-7.5" deep. That was with a fairly firm rubber toy, however. I think my colon simply has a bend the toy cannot make.

The silicone toys are immensely flexible. A 90 degree bend is pretty easy for them from what I've seen. I can't answer if this'll allow for deeper penetration yet; I can't use the Akita toy I have deep enough :P I've not felt anything off or difficult deep inside to where I have used it, though that might not be saying all that much.

It sounds like you guys are having trouble getting past the internal sphincter between the rectum and the sigmoid colon. It's highly unlikely that there's a bend that you can't get around in the rectum or lower part of the colon. These parts are very flexible and free-floating. That sphincter, however, is fairly stationary. I can give you some tips on going beyond it into the realm of deep anal play.

Lube: This, of course, is a given, I should think.

Firm, rather than soft: Yes, firm. You need something stout enough to push past a stubborn sphincter without bending to the side. And, you'll have more control over a firmer toy. My first toy for deeper play was a homemade dildo that was, believe it or not, a carved and sanded piece of wooden closet rod. (Total length was around 2 1/2 feet. Although I wouldn't dream of taking all that, I could push with my feet instead of a hand. Fun! Actually, I think I still have that thing around somewhere. Now I want to find it again.  ;D ) Something like a 10 inch plastic vibrator or firm dildo should be fine. But, I'm not talking about shoving it in forcefully. You'll see.

Straight & slim: For a beginner, a straight toy will give you a better sense of where the tip is from how the toy is held in your hand. As far as thickness goes, even if you've been shoving huge buttplugs into your rectum, that inner sphincter may need to start somewhat smaller. Stick to something maybe 1" to 1.25" in diameter at first.

Rounded tip: Until you learn to navigate in there from experience, a rounded tip will help guide you to the entrance of the internal sphincter. A pointy tip could catch in the wall of the rectum, outside the sphincter muscle. In time, you'll learn to feel when you're on target.

Angle of attack: As Zoen mentioned, changing the angle of the toy may help. You could change the angle from front to back, as well as from left to right. If the toy does have a curve, rotating the toy may also help.

Now, here's the really helpful tip. (I actually learned this from Ron Jeremy in a porn flick, when I was young. Caught From Behind 2)

Push, internally, like you're trying to make a bowel movement: This may sound contrary to knotme's advice to relax, but it really isn't. When you try to expel a BM, a number of things happen. It aligns the colon and rectum, and even though you're flexing abdominal and back muscles it sends a signal to the sphincters to relax. You may eventually learn to relax the inner sphincter on command without pushing to expel, as I have. It also helps to go even deeper once you're past the sphincters. (I still use this trick to get a slim 18" double-dong all the way inside me.) Push gently, though. You don't want to strain hard enough to give yourself a hemorrhoid or a hernia. ;) Just push, gently but firmly, the toy against the sphincter and then push to expel. It can be intense when it first 'pops' past. It could be painful, or it could be so pleasurable that you orgasm on the spot, or both.

Good luck, play safely, and have fun.

zqfmgb:
Quote from: beastmastre on September 12, 2009, 04:12:46 PM

It sounds like you guys are having trouble getting past the internal sphincter between the rectum and the sigmoid colon. It's highly unlikely that there's a bend that you can't get around in the rectum or lower part of the colon. These parts are very flexible and free-floating. That sphincter, however, is fairly stationary. I can give you some tips on going beyond it into the realm of deep anal play.

Lube: This, of course, is a given, I should think.

Firm, rather than soft: Yes, firm. You need something stout enough to push past a stubborn sphincter without bending to the side. And, you'll have more control over a firmer toy. My first toy for deeper play was a homemade dildo that was, believe it or not, a carved and sanded piece of wooden closet rod. (Total length was around 2 1/2 feet. Although I wouldn't dream of taking all that, I could push with my feet instead of a hand. Fun! Actually, I think I still have that thing around somewhere. Now I want to find it again.  ;D ) Something like a 10 inch plastic vibrator or firm dildo should be fine. But, I'm not talking about shoving it in forcefully. You'll see.

etc.



I think that I've gone past that. With both a plastic vibrator and a fairly thick vinyl dildo. I could feel a something like a "pop" where the head was at 5 or so inches in. The vibe would give uncomfortable pressure very shortly after that(maybe 6" total), the dildo could go to the full 7-7.5". I'm going to invest in a thin, long toy fairly soon, though.  :P It'll help, I'm sure. And be fun.

Schii:
Wow, thanks for the great post.  That's very helpful.

I just bought the Timber, so we'll see if the tips help me out!

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